[EXTENDED, MODIFIED] Solar Safeguard Extension Review: Megatråd
"
..
QCELLS is currently planning to make massive additional US investments across the full solar supply chain, including modules, cells, wafers and polysilicon.
In fact just 2 months ago QCELLS invested over $160 million in REC Silicon. That investment will enable REC to restart its dormant US polysilicon production and will mark the auspicious rebirth of polysilicon production in the US.
QCELLS is also currently engaging in thorough business planning, including actively exploring sites for large scale cell and wafer manufacturing, aswell as expansion of our module manufacturing
..
"
55.42
https://youtu.be/r-8PY4QATKo?t=3282
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Tænker det er på tide at få lavet en megatråd om denne tariff. Jeg har længe pønset på at lave en samlet tråd om alle de forskellige, men for god ordens skyld ( og min hjerne ) holder vi blot denne om Section 201 Solar Tariffen som blev indført i 2018. Præsident Biden står overfor et stort valg inden d. 6 Februar 2022 hvor tarifferne udløber. Skal tariffen blive, eller skal den fjernes. Dette ved ingen før Onkel Joe siger hvad der skal gøres.
Vi har i de seneste måneder hørt en del om dette emne, i dag var dog en mere spændende dag idet Hanwha QCELLS' investering i REC Silicon blev nævnt ordret i forbindelse med planlagte investeringer i hele værdikæden. Dette skete under det sidste møde inden bestemmelsen (så vidt >jeg< ved, opdater mig gerne på dette) så lad os få samlet så meget information som muligt.
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Agendaen fra dagens møde:
SOLAR SAFEGUARD EXTENSION REVIEW
SCHEDULE FOR VIRTUAL PUBLIC HEARING
https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/enforcement/201Investigations/Solar%20Safeguard%20Extension%20Review%20Public%20Hearing%20Schedule.pdf
JANUARY 4, 2021
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PANEL 1 (PROPONENTS OF EXTENSION): 9:15 AM – 10:45 AM (90 MINUTES)
1. Auxin
2. Suniva
3. Hanwha
The participants have a collective 60 minutes to provide testimony, which the participants may
divide among themselves, followed by a combined 30 minutes of questions from the panelists to
the participants
*5 Minute Break*
PANEL 2 (OPPONENTS OF EXTENSION): 10:50 AM – 12:20 PM (90 MINUTES)
1. SEIA
2. EDF Renewables
3. Borrego
4. SOLV Energy
5. Sunnova
6. American Clean Power Association
7. NextEra Energy
PANEL 3 (PRODUCERS REQUESTING COUNTRY EXCLUSIONS IF EXTENDED):
1:00 PM – 2:00 PM (60 MINUTES)
1. Maxeon
2. Canadian Solar
3. Heliene
4. Silfab
The participants have a collective 45 minutes to provide testimony, which the participants may
divide among themselves, followed by a combined 15 minutes of questions from the panelists to
the participants
*5 Minute Break*
PANEL 4 (FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS): 2:05 PM – 2:50 PM (45 MINUTES)
1. Government of Canada
2. Government of Mexico
3. Government of Vietnam
Each participant has 10 minutes of allocated testimony, followed by a combined 15 minutes of
questions from the panelists to the participants
CONCLUDING REMARKS FROM THE CHAIR: 2:50 PM – 2:55 PM (5 MINUTES)
"
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Livestream fra dagens møde:
Solar Safeguard Extension Review: Public Hearing (UNLISTED)
https://youtu.be/r-8PY4QATKo?t=3062
JANUARY 4, 2021
(Smid gerne timestamps ind, jeg arbejder også på dette. Det er et f****** langt møde haha - dette link begynder fra når Hanwha's QCELLS begynder at snakke )
___
Hanwha QCELLS' respons d. 23 december kan også varmt anbefales at skimme igennem. Her er en lille teaser :)
Response from Hanwha Q CELLS USA, Inc.
https://www.regulations.gov/comment/USTR-2021-0017-0031
Posted by the Office of United States Trade Representative on Dec 23, 2021
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Domestic production of solar panels and components at scale is critically important to the United States’ transition to 100% carbon free electricity by 2035. Indeed, the strategic value of clean energy supply chains, including solar, has never been higher, necessitating a whole of government response. SEMAA and the administration’s various initiatives recognize that the security of U.S. solar electricity requires incentives to build-up the entire supply chain, not just the modules, but also polysilicon, wafers, cells, solar glass, etc. These initiatives are not a substitute for policies that promote fair and non-injurious trade, but they work alongside the safeguard.
..
"
Resten af deltagernes responser kan findes i denne kommentar
https://finansavisen.no/forum/thread/144506/view/4103498?legacy=0
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UNITED STATES INTERNATIONAL TRADE COMMISSION
Crystalline Silicon Photovoltaic Cells, Whether or Not Partially or Fully Assembled Into Other Products
https://www.usitc.gov/publications/other/pub5266.pdf
DECEMBER 8, 2021
"
..
DETERMINATION
On the basis of the information in this investigation, the United States International Trade Commission (“Commission”) determines, pursuant to section 204(c) of the Trade Act of 1974 (“the Act”) (19 U.S.C. 2254(c)), that action under section 203 of the Act with respect to imports of crystalline silicon photovoltaic cells whether or not partially or fully assembled into other products (“CSPV products”), continues to be necessary to prevent or remedy serious injury and that there is evidence that the domestic industry is making a positive adjustment to import competition.
..
"
___
Jeg kunne forestille mig at vi inden længe ser frisk pressede nyheder fra pv-magazine, pv-tech, og solarpowerworldonline bl.a.. Indtil da må vi nyde det vi har. Tidligere nyheder og kilder om dette vil blive postet i kommentaren under. God fornøjelse :)
____
Opdatering d. 4 Februar
A Proclamation to Continue Facilitating Positive Adjustment to Competition From Imports of Certain Crystalline Silicon Photovoltaic Cells (Whether or Not Partially or Fully Assembled Into Other Products)
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/02/04/a-proclamation-to-continue-facilitating-positive-adjustment-to-competition-from-imports-of-certain-crystalline-silicon-photovoltaic-cells-whether-or-not-partially-or-fully-assembled-into-other-produc/
FEBRUARY 4, 2022
..
QCELLS is currently planning to make massive additional US investments across the full solar supply chain, including modules, cells, wafers and polysilicon.
In fact just 2 months ago QCELLS invested over $160 million in REC Silicon. That investment will enable REC to restart its dormant US polysilicon production and will mark the auspicious rebirth of polysilicon production in the US.
QCELLS is also currently engaging in thorough business planning, including actively exploring sites for large scale cell and wafer manufacturing, aswell as expansion of our module manufacturing
..
"
55.42
https://youtu.be/r-8PY4QATKo?t=3282
___
Tænker det er på tide at få lavet en megatråd om denne tariff. Jeg har længe pønset på at lave en samlet tråd om alle de forskellige, men for god ordens skyld ( og min hjerne ) holder vi blot denne om Section 201 Solar Tariffen som blev indført i 2018. Præsident Biden står overfor et stort valg inden d. 6 Februar 2022 hvor tarifferne udløber. Skal tariffen blive, eller skal den fjernes. Dette ved ingen før Onkel Joe siger hvad der skal gøres.
Vi har i de seneste måneder hørt en del om dette emne, i dag var dog en mere spændende dag idet Hanwha QCELLS' investering i REC Silicon blev nævnt ordret i forbindelse med planlagte investeringer i hele værdikæden. Dette skete under det sidste møde inden bestemmelsen (så vidt >jeg< ved, opdater mig gerne på dette) så lad os få samlet så meget information som muligt.
___
Agendaen fra dagens møde:
SOLAR SAFEGUARD EXTENSION REVIEW
SCHEDULE FOR VIRTUAL PUBLIC HEARING
https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/enforcement/201Investigations/Solar%20Safeguard%20Extension%20Review%20Public%20Hearing%20Schedule.pdf
JANUARY 4, 2021
"
PANEL 1 (PROPONENTS OF EXTENSION): 9:15 AM – 10:45 AM (90 MINUTES)
1. Auxin
2. Suniva
3. Hanwha
The participants have a collective 60 minutes to provide testimony, which the participants may
divide among themselves, followed by a combined 30 minutes of questions from the panelists to
the participants
*5 Minute Break*
PANEL 2 (OPPONENTS OF EXTENSION): 10:50 AM – 12:20 PM (90 MINUTES)
1. SEIA
2. EDF Renewables
3. Borrego
4. SOLV Energy
5. Sunnova
6. American Clean Power Association
7. NextEra Energy
PANEL 3 (PRODUCERS REQUESTING COUNTRY EXCLUSIONS IF EXTENDED):
1:00 PM – 2:00 PM (60 MINUTES)
1. Maxeon
2. Canadian Solar
3. Heliene
4. Silfab
The participants have a collective 45 minutes to provide testimony, which the participants may
divide among themselves, followed by a combined 15 minutes of questions from the panelists to
the participants
*5 Minute Break*
PANEL 4 (FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS): 2:05 PM – 2:50 PM (45 MINUTES)
1. Government of Canada
2. Government of Mexico
3. Government of Vietnam
Each participant has 10 minutes of allocated testimony, followed by a combined 15 minutes of
questions from the panelists to the participants
CONCLUDING REMARKS FROM THE CHAIR: 2:50 PM – 2:55 PM (5 MINUTES)
"
___
Livestream fra dagens møde:
Solar Safeguard Extension Review: Public Hearing (UNLISTED)
https://youtu.be/r-8PY4QATKo?t=3062
JANUARY 4, 2021
(Smid gerne timestamps ind, jeg arbejder også på dette. Det er et f****** langt møde haha - dette link begynder fra når Hanwha's QCELLS begynder at snakke )
___
Hanwha QCELLS' respons d. 23 december kan også varmt anbefales at skimme igennem. Her er en lille teaser :)
Response from Hanwha Q CELLS USA, Inc.
https://www.regulations.gov/comment/USTR-2021-0017-0031
Posted by the Office of United States Trade Representative on Dec 23, 2021
"
..
Domestic production of solar panels and components at scale is critically important to the United States’ transition to 100% carbon free electricity by 2035. Indeed, the strategic value of clean energy supply chains, including solar, has never been higher, necessitating a whole of government response. SEMAA and the administration’s various initiatives recognize that the security of U.S. solar electricity requires incentives to build-up the entire supply chain, not just the modules, but also polysilicon, wafers, cells, solar glass, etc. These initiatives are not a substitute for policies that promote fair and non-injurious trade, but they work alongside the safeguard.
..
"
Resten af deltagernes responser kan findes i denne kommentar
https://finansavisen.no/forum/thread/144506/view/4103498?legacy=0
___
UNITED STATES INTERNATIONAL TRADE COMMISSION
Crystalline Silicon Photovoltaic Cells, Whether or Not Partially or Fully Assembled Into Other Products
https://www.usitc.gov/publications/other/pub5266.pdf
DECEMBER 8, 2021
"
..
DETERMINATION
On the basis of the information in this investigation, the United States International Trade Commission (“Commission”) determines, pursuant to section 204(c) of the Trade Act of 1974 (“the Act”) (19 U.S.C. 2254(c)), that action under section 203 of the Act with respect to imports of crystalline silicon photovoltaic cells whether or not partially or fully assembled into other products (“CSPV products”), continues to be necessary to prevent or remedy serious injury and that there is evidence that the domestic industry is making a positive adjustment to import competition.
..
"
___
Jeg kunne forestille mig at vi inden længe ser frisk pressede nyheder fra pv-magazine, pv-tech, og solarpowerworldonline bl.a.. Indtil da må vi nyde det vi har. Tidligere nyheder og kilder om dette vil blive postet i kommentaren under. God fornøjelse :)
____
Opdatering d. 4 Februar
A Proclamation to Continue Facilitating Positive Adjustment to Competition From Imports of Certain Crystalline Silicon Photovoltaic Cells (Whether or Not Partially or Fully Assembled Into Other Products)
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/02/04/a-proclamation-to-continue-facilitating-positive-adjustment-to-competition-from-imports-of-certain-crystalline-silicon-photovoltaic-cells-whether-or-not-partially-or-fully-assembled-into-other-produc/
FEBRUARY 4, 2022
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manman01
25.01.2022 kl 19:49
7463
Rubio Joins Bipartisan Colleagues In Urging President Biden To Renew Safeguard Tariffs On Solar Panels Manufactured In China
https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2022/1/rubio-joins-bipartisan-colleagues-in-urging-president-biden-to-renew-safeguard-tariffs-on-solar-panels-manufactured-in-china
JANUARY 25, 2022
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Washington, D.C. — U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) joined Senators Rob Portman (R-OH), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Bob Casey (D-PA), Mike Braun (R-IN), and Roger Marshall (R-KS) in sending a letter to President Joe Biden urging him to heed the unanimous recommendation of the International Trade Commission (ITC) and extend the Section 201 safeguard tariffs on Chinese-manufactured solar panels for another four years.
In May 2017, U.S. solar panel manufacturers filed a Section 201 safeguard petition with the ITC, seeking global tariffs in response to surges of solar panels, particularly from China. The ITC unanimously found that surging imports had injured U.S. solar panel producers. In January 2018, President Trump concurred with the ITC recommendation to impose a four year safeguard measure on foreign solar panels. With the safeguard set to expire, and the ITC recommending the renewal of safeguard tariffs, it is up to the Biden Administration to extend the tariffs for another four years to protect American solar panel manufacturers. In the letter, the senators noted that it is vital for the extended safeguard to apply to bifacial solar modules, which are currently not subject to the current tariff regime. The importation of Chinese-manufactured bifacial solar panels is also causing serious harm to domestic solar manufacturers.
“American solar manufacturing should be a key part of the clean energy economy, but despite the United States leading the world in solar research and development, China’s exploitative industrial and trade practices continue to hinder the growth of a strong U.S. solar supply chain,” the senators wrote. “We can only build that capacity if our trade laws are utilized and enforced to the fullest extent possible. Doing so will support American workers and businesses, promote fair trade, minimize the environmental impacts of solar manufacturing and reduce global supply chain reliance on forced labor.”
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https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2022/1/rubio-joins-bipartisan-colleagues-in-urging-president-biden-to-renew-safeguard-tariffs-on-solar-panels-manufactured-in-china
JANUARY 25, 2022
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Washington, D.C. — U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) joined Senators Rob Portman (R-OH), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Bob Casey (D-PA), Mike Braun (R-IN), and Roger Marshall (R-KS) in sending a letter to President Joe Biden urging him to heed the unanimous recommendation of the International Trade Commission (ITC) and extend the Section 201 safeguard tariffs on Chinese-manufactured solar panels for another four years.
In May 2017, U.S. solar panel manufacturers filed a Section 201 safeguard petition with the ITC, seeking global tariffs in response to surges of solar panels, particularly from China. The ITC unanimously found that surging imports had injured U.S. solar panel producers. In January 2018, President Trump concurred with the ITC recommendation to impose a four year safeguard measure on foreign solar panels. With the safeguard set to expire, and the ITC recommending the renewal of safeguard tariffs, it is up to the Biden Administration to extend the tariffs for another four years to protect American solar panel manufacturers. In the letter, the senators noted that it is vital for the extended safeguard to apply to bifacial solar modules, which are currently not subject to the current tariff regime. The importation of Chinese-manufactured bifacial solar panels is also causing serious harm to domestic solar manufacturers.
“American solar manufacturing should be a key part of the clean energy economy, but despite the United States leading the world in solar research and development, China’s exploitative industrial and trade practices continue to hinder the growth of a strong U.S. solar supply chain,” the senators wrote. “We can only build that capacity if our trade laws are utilized and enforced to the fullest extent possible. Doing so will support American workers and businesses, promote fair trade, minimize the environmental impacts of solar manufacturing and reduce global supply chain reliance on forced labor.”
"
manman01
21.01.2022 kl 18:19
7971
CPA Applauds Bipartisan Senate Letter Supporting Extension Section 201 Solar Safeguard Tariffs, Ending Bifacial Exclusion Loophole
https://prosperousamerica.org/cpa-applauds-bipartisan-senate-letter-supporting-extension-of-201-solar-safeguard-tariffs-ending-bifacial-exclusion-loophole/
JANUARY 20, 2022
https://prosperousamerica.org/cpa-applauds-bipartisan-senate-letter-supporting-extension-of-201-solar-safeguard-tariffs-ending-bifacial-exclusion-loophole/
JANUARY 20, 2022
Compilation20
21.01.2022 kl 09:47
8289
Ref:
Som vist i kommentarene til USTR,5
Q CELLER USA
har investert betydelige ressurser i solenergiproduksjon i USA, inkludert i bifacial
moduler, som svar på seksjon 201 lettelse. Q CELLS har også investert i innenlandsk polysilisium
produksjon (REC) og vurderer ytterligere investeringer i solenergiforsyningskjeden. Samtidig er
samlet innenlandsk solenergi industri har opplevd eksplosiv vekst under beskyttelse og vilje
fortsette å vokse hvis lettelsen utvides, i motsetning til spådommene til motstandere av beskyttelsen
at lettelser i § 201 vil redusere etterspørselen.
Som vist i kommentarene til USTR,5
Q CELLER USA
har investert betydelige ressurser i solenergiproduksjon i USA, inkludert i bifacial
moduler, som svar på seksjon 201 lettelse. Q CELLS har også investert i innenlandsk polysilisium
produksjon (REC) og vurderer ytterligere investeringer i solenergiforsyningskjeden. Samtidig er
samlet innenlandsk solenergi industri har opplevd eksplosiv vekst under beskyttelse og vilje
fortsette å vokse hvis lettelsen utvides, i motsetning til spådommene til motstandere av beskyttelsen
at lettelser i § 201 vil redusere etterspørselen.
manman01
21.01.2022 kl 09:13
8361
Jeg ser den gerne fortsætte, ja :)
Der er nemlig ikke meget ved at bygge solparker for at undgå CO2 udslip, når panelerne kommer fra Kina :(
Behind the Rise of U.S. Solar Power, a Mountain of Chinese Coal
https://www.wsj.com/articles/behind-the-rise-of-u-s-solar-power-a-mountain-of-chinese-coal-11627734770
JULY 31, 2021
Der er nemlig ikke meget ved at bygge solparker for at undgå CO2 udslip, når panelerne kommer fra Kina :(
Behind the Rise of U.S. Solar Power, a Mountain of Chinese Coal
https://www.wsj.com/articles/behind-the-rise-of-u-s-solar-power-a-mountain-of-chinese-coal-11627734770
JULY 31, 2021
Stabukk
21.01.2022 kl 08:02
8554
Det er vel i begynnelsen av februar Biden-administrasjonen må ta et standpunkt?
DjTao
21.01.2022 kl 07:52
8550
Jeg antar at du regner med USA fortsetter ned Tariffen Manman.
Det virker jo mest logisk ift til at USA skal kunne stable på beina sin egen komplette verdikjede innen produksjon av solenergi. Detter vel og et politisk mål for Biden administrasjonen at de skal skape jobber industri jobber innen fornybart i USA.
Samtidig er vel argumentet til selskapene som bygger solparker og andre at det tar for lang tid å bygge opp innenlands produksjon. Amerikanerne trenger tilgang på mer strøm nå og de er nødt til å kutte på CO2 utslipp raskt for å nå målsetningene i Paris avtalen. Det klarer de ikke hvis de ikke øker utviklingen av nye solparker massivt og for å få til det er de enn så lenge avhengige av å importere solceller.
Det virker jo mest logisk ift til at USA skal kunne stable på beina sin egen komplette verdikjede innen produksjon av solenergi. Detter vel og et politisk mål for Biden administrasjonen at de skal skape jobber industri jobber innen fornybart i USA.
Samtidig er vel argumentet til selskapene som bygger solparker og andre at det tar for lang tid å bygge opp innenlands produksjon. Amerikanerne trenger tilgang på mer strøm nå og de er nødt til å kutte på CO2 utslipp raskt for å nå målsetningene i Paris avtalen. Det klarer de ikke hvis de ikke øker utviklingen av nye solparker massivt og for å få til det er de enn så lenge avhengige av å importere solceller.
Redigert 21.01.2022 kl 08:51
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manman01
21.01.2022 kl 02:03
8816
Jeg kan anbefale at læse hvad en af vores største ejere har at sige om dette :)
Response from Hanwha Q CELLS USA, Inc.
https://www.regulations.gov/comment/USTR-2021-0017-0031
Posted by the Office of United States Trade Representative on Dec 23, 2021
fra
https://finansavisen.no/forum/post/4103498
Response from Hanwha Q CELLS USA, Inc.
https://www.regulations.gov/comment/USTR-2021-0017-0031
Posted by the Office of United States Trade Representative on Dec 23, 2021
fra
https://finansavisen.no/forum/post/4103498
Xpat1
21.01.2022 kl 01:48
8804
Takk for svar. Tenkte kanskje Kina ville fjerne tariffer på poly hvis US fjernet tariffer på paneler, men vi ønsker oss heller mer en ny verdikjede?
xray292
21.01.2022 kl 01:20
8847
Xpat1 skrev Ønsker man denne forlenget fra et REC-ståsted?
Gjett om! Uten tariff vil det være utfordrende for usa å bygge egen verdikjede.
manman01
21.01.2022 kl 00:16
8963
Portman, Brown, Rubio, Casey, Braun, Marshall Urge President Biden to Extend Safeguard Tariffs on Foreign Solar Panels
https://www.portman.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/portman-brown-rubio-casey-braun-marshall-urge-president-biden-extend
JANUARY 20, 2022
https://www.portman.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/portman-brown-rubio-casey-braun-marshall-urge-president-biden-extend
JANUARY 20, 2022
manman01
21.01.2022 kl 00:14
8872
Rosen Leads Letter to President Biden in Opposition to Extending Job-Killing Solar Tariffs
https://www.rosen.senate.gov/rosen-leads-letter-president-biden-opposition-extending-job-killing-solar-tariffs
JANUARY 20, 2022
Bipartisan group of eight US Senators urge President Biden not to extend solar tariffs
https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2022/01/20/bipartisan-group-of-eight-us-senators-urge-president-biden-not-to-extend-solar-tariffs/
JANUARY 20, 2022
https://www.rosen.senate.gov/rosen-leads-letter-president-biden-opposition-extending-job-killing-solar-tariffs
JANUARY 20, 2022
Bipartisan group of eight US Senators urge President Biden not to extend solar tariffs
https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2022/01/20/bipartisan-group-of-eight-us-senators-urge-president-biden-not-to-extend-solar-tariffs/
JANUARY 20, 2022
manman01
17.01.2022 kl 18:25
9720
U.S. DOJ appeals against the reinstatement of bifacial panel exemption from Section 201 tariffs
https://pvbuzz.com/doj-appeals-against-bifacial-panel-exemption-section-201-tariffs/
JANUARY 17, 2022
Department of Justice appeals ITC’s Section 201 ruling
https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2022/01/17/department-of-justice-appeals-itcs-section-201-ruling/
JANUARY 17, 2022
https://pvbuzz.com/doj-appeals-against-bifacial-panel-exemption-section-201-tariffs/
JANUARY 17, 2022
Department of Justice appeals ITC’s Section 201 ruling
https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2022/01/17/department-of-justice-appeals-itcs-section-201-ruling/
JANUARY 17, 2022
xray292
17.01.2022 kl 01:12
9416
Hanwha Q CELLS will begin mass production on new bifacial solar module this year (2019)
https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2019/05/hanwha-q-cells-will-begin-mass-production-on-new-bifacial-solar-module-this-year/
Hanwha Q Cells Unveils Brand-new Bifacial and Floating-type Solar Modules (2021)
http://koreabizwire.com/hanwha-q-cells-unveils-brand-new-bifacial-and-floating-type-solar-modules/185082
https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2019/05/hanwha-q-cells-will-begin-mass-production-on-new-bifacial-solar-module-this-year/
Hanwha Q Cells Unveils Brand-new Bifacial and Floating-type Solar Modules (2021)
http://koreabizwire.com/hanwha-q-cells-unveils-brand-new-bifacial-and-floating-type-solar-modules/185082
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Intravenøsiu
16.01.2022 kl 23:43
9614
Hanwha nevnte spesifikt bifacial som et viktig vekst område i USA ved høringen, spennende utvikling, takk for link.
manman01
16.01.2022 kl 22:26
9911
DOJ vil appellere den “exemption” som en US dommer har tilladt, da dommeren mente den daværende præsident havde oversteppet hans grænser ved at tilføje bifacial moduler til Section 201 tarifferne.
ref: https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/11/bifacial-solar-panels-are-once-again-exempt-from-section-201-tariffs/
Så, som situationen står nu er der ikke toldafgift på bifacial panels. Dette vil DOJ kæmpe for bliver genindført, da de mener at toldafgiften på bifacial paneler var indført retfærdigt.
Mit indtryk er også, at jo færre billige kinesiske paneler som bliver dumpet i US, jo bedre for REC (:
Håber det var svar nok, ellers uddyber jeg gerne når jeg er ved min pc.. imorgen hehe (:
Ellers vil jeg ønske alle en God aften!
ref: https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/11/bifacial-solar-panels-are-once-again-exempt-from-section-201-tariffs/
Så, som situationen står nu er der ikke toldafgift på bifacial panels. Dette vil DOJ kæmpe for bliver genindført, da de mener at toldafgiften på bifacial paneler var indført retfærdigt.
Mit indtryk er også, at jo færre billige kinesiske paneler som bliver dumpet i US, jo bedre for REC (:
Håber det var svar nok, ellers uddyber jeg gerne når jeg er ved min pc.. imorgen hehe (:
Ellers vil jeg ønske alle en God aften!
Trollstuket
16.01.2022 kl 21:18
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The US solar industry continues to wait for a decision from President Biden on the future of Section 201 tariffs, which are due to expire next month. In December the US International Trade Commission recommended the tariffs be extended for a further four years – with some minor amends – however Biden could still ignore that recommendation.
Skalleknarp
16.01.2022 kl 21:09
10272
Når taksonomi og CO2 (fotavtrykk) avgift får innpass for industrien (krav til merking ala det biler - flyreiser etc. gjør så vil RECSI blomstre i forhold til mange andre leverandører er min spådom. Å bli tatt i juks her vil ikke være særlig fordelaktig.
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strider1
16.01.2022 kl 20:57
10318
Hvis us dropper sin tariff på paneler, må jo Kina kunne droppe sin tariff på poly. Burde hvertfall....
Slik jeg ser det kommer REC greit ut av det ved begge alternativene. Videre toll gir insentiver for egen us solar chain, dropp av toll gir store sjanser for tilgang til Kina markedet igjen.
Det viktigste er at det blir tatt en beslutning. På tariff, på BBB/sena. Det er dette alle venter på. Man må vite hva man skal forholde seg til før man setter igang fabrikker og investeringer.
Slik jeg ser det kommer REC greit ut av det ved begge alternativene. Videre toll gir insentiver for egen us solar chain, dropp av toll gir store sjanser for tilgang til Kina markedet igjen.
Det viktigste er at det blir tatt en beslutning. På tariff, på BBB/sena. Det er dette alle venter på. Man må vite hva man skal forholde seg til før man setter igang fabrikker og investeringer.
Redigert 16.01.2022 kl 21:06
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Småplukker
16.01.2022 kl 19:53
10573
Hva innebærer dette manman? Er det administrasjonen som ikke vil gi unntak fra tariffene for dobbelsidige solpaneler? Altså som vi recere helst vil, at alle typer solpaneler skal være underlagt tariff? Eller misforstå jeg?
manman01
16.01.2022 kl 19:42
10651
Kan det blive mere spændende? :))))
US DOJ appeals Section 201 bifacial exemption repeal
https://www.pv-tech.org/us-doj-appeals-section-201-bifacial-exemption-repeal/
JANUARY 16, 2022
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The US Government has appealed against the reinstatement of an exemption from Section 201 tariffs for bifacial modules.
Late last week the Department of Justice (DOJ) lodged a formal appeal against a decision handed down in mid-November last year by Judge Katzmann of the US Court of International Trade. That decision found that the government had overstepped in repealing the exemption, with former US President Donald Trump found in particular to have overstepped his authority when repealing the exemption just weeks before he left office.
However it is considered that the exemption for bifacial panels was essentially issued in error, and the appeal from the DOJ is the start of a legal process towards formally removing the exemption.
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US DOJ appeals Section 201 bifacial exemption repeal
https://www.pv-tech.org/us-doj-appeals-section-201-bifacial-exemption-repeal/
JANUARY 16, 2022
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The US Government has appealed against the reinstatement of an exemption from Section 201 tariffs for bifacial modules.
Late last week the Department of Justice (DOJ) lodged a formal appeal against a decision handed down in mid-November last year by Judge Katzmann of the US Court of International Trade. That decision found that the government had overstepped in repealing the exemption, with former US President Donald Trump found in particular to have overstepped his authority when repealing the exemption just weeks before he left office.
However it is considered that the exemption for bifacial panels was essentially issued in error, and the appeal from the DOJ is the start of a legal process towards formally removing the exemption.
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manman01
15.01.2022 kl 20:39
11378
DOJ to Appeal Decision That Reopened Solar Loophole Trump Killed
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/environment-and-energy/doj-to-appeal-decision-that-reopened-solar-loophole-trump-killed
JANUARY 14, 2022
Solar Industry Responds to Department of Justice Decision to Appeal Section 201 Ruling
https://www.seia.org/news/solar-industry-responds-department-justice-decision-appeal-section-201-ruling
JANUARY 14, 2022
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/environment-and-energy/doj-to-appeal-decision-that-reopened-solar-loophole-trump-killed
JANUARY 14, 2022
Solar Industry Responds to Department of Justice Decision to Appeal Section 201 Ruling
https://www.seia.org/news/solar-industry-responds-department-justice-decision-appeal-section-201-ruling
JANUARY 14, 2022
manman01
12.01.2022 kl 16:07
12252
Will Biden Go Against Majority of Americans Who Want Solar Made In The US?
https://prosperousamerica.org/will-biden-go-against-majority-of-americans-who-want-solar-made-in-the-usa/
JANUARY 11, 2022
https://prosperousamerica.org/will-biden-go-against-majority-of-americans-who-want-solar-made-in-the-usa/
JANUARY 11, 2022
manman01
09.01.2022 kl 00:13
13514
Har forstått at dette gjelder «Section 201 solar safeguard tariffs», og om Biden i begynnelsen av februar skal holde fast ved 18% toll på import av blant annet solpaneler, eller kanskje øke denne satsen. Er dette riktig forstått?
Section 201 tarifferne udløber i starten af februar 2022. Biden skal vælge om han vil lade den udløbe, eller han vil forlænge den :)
Uendelige mengder med engelsk tekst, til dels med kompliserte ord, gjør det nokså vanskelig for en tilårskommen nordmann å følge med. Jo, jeg får ofte hjelp av Google Translate! Men kan noen bekrefte at Auxin Solar, Hanwha Q Cells og Suniva helst vil ha en kraftig økning av tollsatsen, for å bremse importen fra Kina?
Haha jep dette er super kringlet, det er bare at holde tungen lige i munden mens man prøver sit bedste. Min tolkning er næppe perfekt heller. Er jo ingen advokat :) Når det så er sagt, så har præsidenten ikke mulighed for at hæve tariff raterne over 18%, (sådan som jeg forstår) kun forlænge dem. Der kæmpes for at få den højeste tariff rate (18%), med det laveste "step-down" niveau muligt (ref: https://youtu.be/r-8PY4QATKo?t=3259 )
Hanwha Q-Clls har jo en stor panel-fabrikk i staten Georgia. Den vil vel gjøre det bra selv med «bare» 18% toll på importerte solpaneler?
https://youtu.be/r-8PY4QATKo?t=4118 Lyt indtil 1:09:20 "... for a manufacturer, it is the difference between life and death"
Håber at dette var afklaring nok, ellers må du sige til. Uddyber mig gerne yderligere.. imorgen hehe :)
God aften!
Section 201 tarifferne udløber i starten af februar 2022. Biden skal vælge om han vil lade den udløbe, eller han vil forlænge den :)
Uendelige mengder med engelsk tekst, til dels med kompliserte ord, gjør det nokså vanskelig for en tilårskommen nordmann å følge med. Jo, jeg får ofte hjelp av Google Translate! Men kan noen bekrefte at Auxin Solar, Hanwha Q Cells og Suniva helst vil ha en kraftig økning av tollsatsen, for å bremse importen fra Kina?
Haha jep dette er super kringlet, det er bare at holde tungen lige i munden mens man prøver sit bedste. Min tolkning er næppe perfekt heller. Er jo ingen advokat :) Når det så er sagt, så har præsidenten ikke mulighed for at hæve tariff raterne over 18%, (sådan som jeg forstår) kun forlænge dem. Der kæmpes for at få den højeste tariff rate (18%), med det laveste "step-down" niveau muligt (ref: https://youtu.be/r-8PY4QATKo?t=3259 )
Hanwha Q-Clls har jo en stor panel-fabrikk i staten Georgia. Den vil vel gjøre det bra selv med «bare» 18% toll på importerte solpaneler?
https://youtu.be/r-8PY4QATKo?t=4118 Lyt indtil 1:09:20 "... for a manufacturer, it is the difference between life and death"
Håber at dette var afklaring nok, ellers må du sige til. Uddyber mig gerne yderligere.. imorgen hehe :)
God aften!
Redigert 09.01.2022 kl 00:30
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Småplukker
09.01.2022 kl 00:07
13554
Hovedpoenget står vel i artikkelen her:
The issue is over whether or not the White House will follow the advice of the International Trade Commission and extend the 18% tariffs on solar panels and solar cells; keep tariff quotas on 2.5GW of solar cells; and re-impose tariffs on two-sided solar panels used by utilities.
After listening to both sides, the ITC affirmed its view after the Thanksgiving holiday that safeguards should remain. They sent their opinion to the President on December 8. Biden will make his decision by February 6.
Såvidt jeg forstår så ber de ikke om en økning, bare en videreføring av 18%-tariffen som nå utløper etter fire år. Rec er selvsagt på den siden som vil ha tariffene videreført, siden det vil hjelpe på oppstart av ML.
The issue is over whether or not the White House will follow the advice of the International Trade Commission and extend the 18% tariffs on solar panels and solar cells; keep tariff quotas on 2.5GW of solar cells; and re-impose tariffs on two-sided solar panels used by utilities.
After listening to both sides, the ITC affirmed its view after the Thanksgiving holiday that safeguards should remain. They sent their opinion to the President on December 8. Biden will make his decision by February 6.
Såvidt jeg forstår så ber de ikke om en økning, bare en videreføring av 18%-tariffen som nå utløper etter fire år. Rec er selvsagt på den siden som vil ha tariffene videreført, siden det vil hjelpe på oppstart av ML.
Stabukk
08.01.2022 kl 23:32
13680
Har forstått at dette gjelder «Section 201 solar safeguard tariffs», og om Biden i begynnelsen av februar skal holde fast ved 18% toll på import av blant annet solpaneler, eller kanskje øke denne satsen. Er dette riktig forstått? Uendelige mengder med engelsk tekst, til dels med kompliserte ord, gjør det nokså vanskelig for en tilårskommen nordmann å følge med. Jo, jeg får ofte hjelp av Google Translate! Men kan noen bekrefte at Auxin Solar, Hanwha Q Cells og Suniva helst vil ha en kraftig økning av tollsatsen, for å bremse importen fra Kina? Hanwha Q-Clls har jo en stor panel-fabrikk i staten Georgia. Den vil vel gjøre det bra selv med «bare» 18% toll på importerte solpaneler? Spesielt hvis Hanwha som Rec-kunde kan få god pris på silisium fra Moses Lake, til både wafere og ferdige paneler. Men en pris som kan gi Rec et overskudd som gjør at fabrikken blir «jump-started». Vil gjerne ha svar på norsk eller dansk! Svar også hvis jeg er helt på jorde.
manman01
08.01.2022 kl 18:59
13946
U.S. Solar Fends Off Importers; Hopes to Convince Biden To Stick With Them
https://prosperousamerica.org/u-s-solar-fends-off-importers-hopes-to-convince-biden-to-stick-with-them/
JANUARY 7, 2022
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Andy Munro, General Counsel, Hanwha Q Cells: “We have momentum. But to protect it, a strong and smart 201 extension is necessary. The 201s have been impacted by Covid and by the bifacial exclusion – it lasted a year and a half and resulted in a massive amount of imports from China and SE Asia. (Roughly 10 GW imported in 2020, five times what Q Cells makes). Every day that goes by with that exclusion in place seriously harms U.S. manufacturing. It has to be withdrawn.”
If the bifacial solar panels are allowed into this country duty free – Asia will be the primary source of solar electricity generated by utility companies. That is a fact. Any country stating its willingness to be dependent on foreign sources of electric power is sticking the neck of its national energy security under a guillotine in order to see what happens next.
Members of the USTR Trade Committee asked Q Cells, others, if four years would be enough to get their investments to start producing more solar cells and bifacials the other side of the market wants so badly.
Rashid: “The safeguard is one component of an all of government approach to reshore the solar industry here, including taxes and looking at South East Asia, where China is circumventing. You will hear from panelists later today who enable those imports and hold back the growth of the solar industry in the U.S.”
The Commerce Department recently dropped a case against Southeast Asian-based Chinese multinationals for circumvention of China anti-dumping charges, along with new ones against companies in Vietnam, Malaysia and Thailand.
Scott Moscowitz, Director of Public Affairs, Market Intelligence, Q Cells: “Look, it’s not that if you take away the 201s you magically get more imports and we will be installing even more solar. We are installing more solar anyway. What it really means is that the market price would drop and it would make domestic manufacturing extremely difficult.”
USTR asked: Would a removal of the safeguards push a reliance on China?
Rashid: “If we are not in a position with the proper policies in place to get factories online…which takes years…if you are not doing that now, then yes, you essentially give up control of your solar energy grid.”
Will Martin of USTR confronted SEIA about their claims of job loss due to tariffs.
Martin: “What I see from the ITC report is that the number of jobs peaked in 2016, fell in 2017 and 2018, and then rose in 2019. How is that consistent with your assertion that the safeguard measures resulted in loss of employment?”
Abigail Ross Hopper, President, SEIA: “The loss of jobs were the jobs that were not created. It is our opinion and our economic analysis shows that the job loss has been greater because of the imposition of tariffs.”
Those “losses” were based on a forecast that didn’t come to fruition. Jobs remain steady and heading in the right direction. Installations are up, though this may not be the case across all segments of the market.
Martin: “If the President sides with the ITC, does SEIA have any impact studies you can share?”
Hopper referred to Nicely who didn’t know.
Nicely: “We don’t have any studies. Just cost to consumers, which are significant.”
That was SEIA’s chance to say once again in their closing remarks that utilities were not buyers, not starting new projects, because of concern that bifacials will be tariffed. They did not.
For big producers here like Q Cells, their capacity is currently 1.9GW and they are just now getting into the bifacial solar market. They start shipping next month after making investments in a facility in Dalton, Georgia. Politico wrote about this on January 2.
Moscowitz: “Throughout the Section 201 tariffs, prices did not go up as the importers anticipated and installations continued to rise. Any argument that the 201s have or will reduce installations is all based on forecasts and not actual sales.”
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https://prosperousamerica.org/u-s-solar-fends-off-importers-hopes-to-convince-biden-to-stick-with-them/
JANUARY 7, 2022
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Andy Munro, General Counsel, Hanwha Q Cells: “We have momentum. But to protect it, a strong and smart 201 extension is necessary. The 201s have been impacted by Covid and by the bifacial exclusion – it lasted a year and a half and resulted in a massive amount of imports from China and SE Asia. (Roughly 10 GW imported in 2020, five times what Q Cells makes). Every day that goes by with that exclusion in place seriously harms U.S. manufacturing. It has to be withdrawn.”
If the bifacial solar panels are allowed into this country duty free – Asia will be the primary source of solar electricity generated by utility companies. That is a fact. Any country stating its willingness to be dependent on foreign sources of electric power is sticking the neck of its national energy security under a guillotine in order to see what happens next.
Members of the USTR Trade Committee asked Q Cells, others, if four years would be enough to get their investments to start producing more solar cells and bifacials the other side of the market wants so badly.
Rashid: “The safeguard is one component of an all of government approach to reshore the solar industry here, including taxes and looking at South East Asia, where China is circumventing. You will hear from panelists later today who enable those imports and hold back the growth of the solar industry in the U.S.”
The Commerce Department recently dropped a case against Southeast Asian-based Chinese multinationals for circumvention of China anti-dumping charges, along with new ones against companies in Vietnam, Malaysia and Thailand.
Scott Moscowitz, Director of Public Affairs, Market Intelligence, Q Cells: “Look, it’s not that if you take away the 201s you magically get more imports and we will be installing even more solar. We are installing more solar anyway. What it really means is that the market price would drop and it would make domestic manufacturing extremely difficult.”
USTR asked: Would a removal of the safeguards push a reliance on China?
Rashid: “If we are not in a position with the proper policies in place to get factories online…which takes years…if you are not doing that now, then yes, you essentially give up control of your solar energy grid.”
Will Martin of USTR confronted SEIA about their claims of job loss due to tariffs.
Martin: “What I see from the ITC report is that the number of jobs peaked in 2016, fell in 2017 and 2018, and then rose in 2019. How is that consistent with your assertion that the safeguard measures resulted in loss of employment?”
Abigail Ross Hopper, President, SEIA: “The loss of jobs were the jobs that were not created. It is our opinion and our economic analysis shows that the job loss has been greater because of the imposition of tariffs.”
Those “losses” were based on a forecast that didn’t come to fruition. Jobs remain steady and heading in the right direction. Installations are up, though this may not be the case across all segments of the market.
Martin: “If the President sides with the ITC, does SEIA have any impact studies you can share?”
Hopper referred to Nicely who didn’t know.
Nicely: “We don’t have any studies. Just cost to consumers, which are significant.”
That was SEIA’s chance to say once again in their closing remarks that utilities were not buyers, not starting new projects, because of concern that bifacials will be tariffed. They did not.
For big producers here like Q Cells, their capacity is currently 1.9GW and they are just now getting into the bifacial solar market. They start shipping next month after making investments in a facility in Dalton, Georgia. Politico wrote about this on January 2.
Moscowitz: “Throughout the Section 201 tariffs, prices did not go up as the importers anticipated and installations continued to rise. Any argument that the 201s have or will reduce installations is all based on forecasts and not actual sales.”
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manman01
07.01.2022 kl 11:46
14404
Will U.S. Solar Be Totally Owned by China? We Will Know in February
https://prosperousamerica.org/will-u-s-solar-be-totally-owned-by-china-we-will-know-in-february/
JANUARY 6, 2022
https://prosperousamerica.org/will-u-s-solar-be-totally-owned-by-china-we-will-know-in-february/
JANUARY 6, 2022
manman01
05.01.2022 kl 16:18
15347
Tilføjet rapport fra UNITED STATES INTERNATIONAL TRADE COMMISSION i hovedoplægget
Crystalline Silicon Photovoltaic Cells, Whether or Not Partially or Fully Assembled Into Other Products
https://www.usitc.gov/publications/other/pub5266.pdf
DECEMBER 8, 2021
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DETERMINATION
On the basis of the information in this investigation, the United States International Trade Commission (“Commission”) determines, pursuant to section 204(c) of the Trade Act of 1974 (“the Act”) (19 U.S.C. 2254(c)), that action under section 203 of the Act with respect to imports of crystalline silicon photovoltaic cells whether or not partially or fully assembled into other products (“CSPV products”), continues to be necessary to prevent or remedy serious injury and that there is evidence that the domestic industry is making a positive adjustment to import competition.
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Crystalline Silicon Photovoltaic Cells, Whether or Not Partially or Fully Assembled Into Other Products
https://www.usitc.gov/publications/other/pub5266.pdf
DECEMBER 8, 2021
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DETERMINATION
On the basis of the information in this investigation, the United States International Trade Commission (“Commission”) determines, pursuant to section 204(c) of the Trade Act of 1974 (“the Act”) (19 U.S.C. 2254(c)), that action under section 203 of the Act with respect to imports of crystalline silicon photovoltaic cells whether or not partially or fully assembled into other products (“CSPV products”), continues to be necessary to prevent or remedy serious injury and that there is evidence that the domestic industry is making a positive adjustment to import competition.
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Redigert 05.01.2022 kl 16:18
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Godt at du tar dette opp. Dette er nok også for å gi tegn til politikere at de må få fart på ting og ta riktig avgjørelser, ettersom dette kan påvirke mange potensielle arbeidsplasser. Fra min forståelse, så virker det som om HS er ute etter å starte ML så tidlig som mulig, men da er det viktig at forutsetningene for at de faktisk lykkes er tilstede.
Kjempe gode nyheter. Kjempe gode tider i vente. REC er definitivt et selskap en bør ha øynene sine på i 2022. Dessverre, så er det fremdeles tradere som styrer retningen på kort sikt. Tipper at det er en del bagholdere på 19-20 tallet som selger seg ut sekundet de får mulighet, samt swing tradere som utnytter 10% opp og ned, fordi de ikke vet / bryr seg om fremtidig prospekter, ettersom de har dårlig erfaring av å være investert i ett selskap som er så volatilt og som egentlig i 2021 ikke ga noe særlig avkastning. Dette ødelegger momentet. Heldigvis er kortsiktige bevegelser bare støy i det store bildet.
Likevel er det en flott mulighet til å akkumulere. Det å kjøpe REC aksjer til 18-19kr, når HS betalte 20kr for to måneder siden og med alt vi vet vil forekomme er en god pris i mitt syn. Ja, det er risiko involvert, men oppsiden er så mye større enn nedsiden. Med all volatiliteten til selskapet derimot, vet jeg ikke om dette er en god inngang kortsiktig eller om vi kommer til å dippe igjen. Kursutviklingen er litt latterlig, mener jeg. Men dette får vi leve med litt til.
Kjempe gode nyheter. Kjempe gode tider i vente. REC er definitivt et selskap en bør ha øynene sine på i 2022. Dessverre, så er det fremdeles tradere som styrer retningen på kort sikt. Tipper at det er en del bagholdere på 19-20 tallet som selger seg ut sekundet de får mulighet, samt swing tradere som utnytter 10% opp og ned, fordi de ikke vet / bryr seg om fremtidig prospekter, ettersom de har dårlig erfaring av å være investert i ett selskap som er så volatilt og som egentlig i 2021 ikke ga noe særlig avkastning. Dette ødelegger momentet. Heldigvis er kortsiktige bevegelser bare støy i det store bildet.
Likevel er det en flott mulighet til å akkumulere. Det å kjøpe REC aksjer til 18-19kr, når HS betalte 20kr for to måneder siden og med alt vi vet vil forekomme er en god pris i mitt syn. Ja, det er risiko involvert, men oppsiden er så mye større enn nedsiden. Med all volatiliteten til selskapet derimot, vet jeg ikke om dette er en god inngang kortsiktig eller om vi kommer til å dippe igjen. Kursutviklingen er litt latterlig, mener jeg. Men dette får vi leve med litt til.
MotorCityCobra
05.01.2022 kl 09:44
16255
Flott innlegg. Jeg mener i likhet med mange andre at REC fremdeles er på tilbud så her er det bare å laste opp!
onkel_østkant skrev Fantastisk arbeid, dette er megabull!
Om dere ikke har fått med dere at det er nå dere burde handle Rec mens den enda er på billig salg er det snart ikke håp. Nyheter renner inn og det mangler kun melding fra selskapet før det exploderer:))) Rec er klart den aksjen man burde eie i 2022:)))
Er jo megabull om tariffen blir videreført. Men, for å veie litt opp på motsatt side, så er det verdt å bite seg merke i hva HS sier i svar runden, når de blir spurt om hva konsekvensene av eventuell ikke videreført tariff vil være (se ca 1:37:00 ut i videoen). Svaret var at da vil de vurdere å stoppe utbyggingen av wafer, utvidelse av panelproduksjon og oppstart av REC Silicon sin fabrikk. Jeg er long i REC, men greit å få med seg de negative sidene i denne videoen også:)
Redigert 05.01.2022 kl 08:55
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Onmyway
05.01.2022 kl 08:41
16726
Helt rått, Manman, takk for glimrende informasjon som er en deilig bekreftelse. Håper du koste deg med popcornet i går 👌🏼
omac
05.01.2022 kl 08:27
16904
Short økte faktisk med ca 180k på fredag, får se hva de gjorde i går kl 1530